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In this episodes podcast we talk about the express "to knock one back", Halloween, my incredibly shitty Thursday and lastly language partners.
Are you a chicken or do you eat chicken, hopefully it's the latter, or maybe neither if you're a vegetarian/ vegan. Today we talk about chickening out and some similar expressions.
Keiran: Hey, there how is it going guys. Today is Tuesday October the 25th and one of my students just bailed on me. And so I'm gonna record this podcast right now for tomorrow. Hope you're doing well, I'm doing pretty well and today I wanted to talk about chickening out or being a chicken. And a few other words we used to talk about when someone doesn't have the courage to do something which is what we call chickening out. But before I get into that I just want to leave a few thoughts for you to consider. I know some of you guys out there have been using the transcripts for the podcasts, you find it useful to be able to read what I am saying or what any other guests are saying, while we're doing the podcast.
And I started to get a company to write them for me in September and when we did the first one I read it and it was very well done. However just yesterday I checked the transcript they provided for Monday's podcast and it was fuckin' awful. There was even one point in the transcript where what I had said was -- had been marked down as David Peachy saying and David Peachy was saying what I had said. And there's tons of words missing and I spent about 45 minutes correcting it. So if you guys are ever reading these transcripts and you see a lot of mistakes, please, please, please let me know because I get this done for you and if they're doing a poor job at it, I have to go after them.
And they're either gonna shape up or I'm gonna find someone else to do it because this is an English language podcast they can't have tons of mistakes everywhere, right? Alright so that's it about that. Another thing I want to just mention before we get on with chickening out and wussing out and wimping out which we'll get to very shortly is we got podcast number 100 coming up on Saturday. So if you haven't voted on what you want me to do, I would do it quickly. I suggested either I'd drunk dial some of the podcast listeners which means you're gonna have to give me your numbers or I will prank call some of the old podcast guests or lastly I'm gonna call up switchboard operators which are the people who connect you to people of importance inside some major Fortune 500 companies.
So let me know what you wanna do inside the private Facebook group and we will do that and let's get on with the show. So in life we always find ourselves in -- I guess you can say sometimes you stagnate. You feel you're not growing anymore and at the back of your head usually you know what you need to do to move forward. Usually, not always. And a lot of the times what you need to do to move forward is something that is quite uncomfortable. Maybe you have to try to get a foreign client for the first time; maybe you have to present in a foreign language; maybe you have to apply to a new job but you don't do it. You chicken out. You sit there and you wait and you wait and you wait and by chickening out, we mean you lack courage in that moment.
I think everyone has had this experience sometime in their life. I remember the first time that I chickened out was - we used to go to the water slides when we were younger. We would go to the pool that we belonged to and it was all the older kids and we would go with the lifeguards which was so much fun because we kind of looked up to them and they were -- they're like our role models or our friends/teachers at the same time. And at the water slides we always went to there's this huge water slide, which was just a very steep slide, it went almost straight down. And this was kind of like the cool kid water slide, you know like the one you bragged about going on because it was so scary. And I remember the first three times we went there, I went with my friends and then you walked up this huge tower, all these stairs as we get to the top.
And then I just stood there, and I just saw people going down and I completely chickened out. There's no way I was gonna do that. It was way too scary for me, right? Now chickening out is a general word, you can use it for anyone and the other word we often hear is wussing out, wussing out. That comes from the word or the noun wuss. And a wuss is kind of like a mean word we use to describe a man or a boy who has no courage. So that's a bit of a gendered word. It's oriented more towards men. So in that scenario, I could say I wussed out. I could say, I wasn't as masculine as I could have been in that moment. And then the other one we also use is wimp out. Actually no, sorry not wimp out. Pussy out. He pussied out of it.
This one is a very sensitive word too and you might get in trouble for using it in North America at the moment because, I mean pussy has a lot of different meanings associated with it. One of them is a pussy cat, a small kitten. Second one could be, it's a vulgar word for the word, vagina. So when you say pussy out of something, it means we're kind of mocking women in a sense. We're saying, oh women are not strong and you're acting like a woman, so you pussied out. So we don't really use this one that often unless you're with a group of guys and they're making fun of each other. So I would go with chicken out if you ever wanna use a different way of saying I'm scared of doing something. You say, "I chickened out of it".
So what have you chickened out of, think of that. Maybe you can even put it in the comments below. And maybe you don't want to but hey why not, it's fun too have little courage and you know be open and be honest, make yourself vulnerable, that's always an uncomfortable thing to do but at the end of the day if you respect yourself, isn't that all that matters? So I'm curious what did you ever chicken out of. Actually I haven't really chickened out of very much recently. The last year I think I've done all the things I wanted to do. I started a podcast. I started my own comedy show. I'm building the website and I'm gonna be continuing to do that.
I have a few audio books or programs that I'm actually in the beginning stages of making which I think are gonna be exciting to any language learner out there who is sick of all the routine stuff that they're constantly being tried to baaah! my language is falling apart. You know you're sick of all the normal language learning products out there. I think mine is gonna be more fun because I'm more fun than them, they're boring. They're very boring so why would you wanna buy a boring product, right? I'm not gonna talk about that anymore.
So guys that's about it for today. We talked about chickening out, wussing out, pussying out of something. And I want you guys to think about that for a moment. What have you ever chickened out of, what have you've ever wussed out of, or what have you ever pussied out of? And let us know, you know. Participate, grow your language, listen to this a few times, make sure you understand the podcast fully. Take notes if there's any other expressions in there that you liked. And we'll catch you next time on the next podcast of UnCensored English.
By request of a listener this podcast is about nothing at all.... that's right David Peachey and I shoot the shit about whatever pops into our minds.
Keiran: All right, what’s up everybody, today on the Podcast we have David Peachey back on here. How it’s going David?
David: I am back, yes good to be back here Keiran. How things going over there?
Keiran: Pretty good, I have started doing French lessons on Italki.
David: Really, so what is the kind of level of the French would be there?
Keiran: I would say probably an intermediate, may be a low intermediate level. I can hold the conversation but there is a lot of words that escape me. If I am listening to radio or a Podcast, I really have to struggle and listen and focus, re-listen and re-listen. Yeah, so I'd say intermediate. What about you, have you spend any time learning languages recently?
David: Uhhh, yes I have, I just been learning some Russian songs. From my time in Russia, I've kept one of my teachers and I am learning Russian songs with her, which is quite interesting. Its from an old Russian movies.
Keiran: Oh cool! That is very interesting. How long you have been doing Russian for, how long you have been learning that?
David: Good question. I guess I have been learning for about two years now, close to two years. I started off with the basic phrases, basic dialogues. I used a couple of very very helpful Russian teachers. They are wonderful. And One of them offered Russian through songs. So I thought, I will pick this up and we're working on classic songs from movies, a couple of children songs.
Keiran: Okay great. I love children's songs for learning, even children's television. I think a lot of people will overlook it and it is generally the language structure in children...Anything for children is very simple and there is a lot of repetition and it is an easy and fun way to learn.
David: Yeah, I find listening to children like native speakers, they are quite easy to follow.
Keiran: Yeah for sure, right. I am curious, so you have been doing Russian for two years. How it is going like, what do you think is your level right now?
David:Uh I think my level is probably still pre-intermediate. The reasoning behind doing the songs is, not so much for vocabulary or grammar but to focus on pronunciation. Which I have been tormenting me for a long time because I was trying to pronounce every syllable and Russian tends to neutralize vowels as well.
Keiran: Okay, so you are singing and recording yourself?
David: Yes, actually just tonight I've come back from a open mic nights. And they uh, the organizers requested one of the Russian songs which I have sung a couple of times before.
Keiran: That is awesome, how did it go?
David: Yeah, they love it. It um it's a poker style songs. Even though they don’t understand the words...I'll introduce it in Russia and I'll say Bolshoe Spasibo at the end. But the organizer just this evening said, "I love that song, it makes me want to pick up a bottle of Vodka."
Keiran: [laughing] That's funny. It is really interesting now, I was doing on Quebec for greater part of my life. Quebec is weird in that language, there is a lot of tension with language because English people have to learn French. And whenever something is forced on you, you obviously don’t enjoy it.
David: Yeah, you rebel a bit, yup.
Keiran: Right. And I always had issues with France. Like I'd always resented French class. I'm was like, "No, not French, I hate French." And was this thing that cause me pain. I was always poor in it. And then it's weird that, once I actively made this choice of start learning French, because I wanted to. I want perform in comedy in the upcoming summer in the French comedy scene.
David: Oh nice, great.
Keiran: But since I started doing it, like these interactions which used to be kind of painful for me. Like going to the store to buy something and the clerk is French. Is now the most pleasant experience and like I really feel in the moment. It is crazy how just embracing a language can. I don’t know, it seems to brighten up my day in ways that never happened before, you know.
David: Right and it's just like to you now is just a simple interaction, you breeze through it.
Keiran: Well its not simple.
Keiran: Like for example, l lost my wallet about two weeks ago, which is the biggest piss off, to lose your wallet you know.
David: Oh I can imagine, yeah.
Keiran: You get all your IDs in there and then you got ran around area and replace them all. But one think I had was a point's card for the alcohol store I go to.
Kerian: So after I lost the wallet, I went back to that store and I had to tell them about this so I can get a new points card. And I did it in French and it was really fun. But then I got to a point in the interaction where I didn’t know what the wallet was.
David: Oh okay.
Kerian: So I'm like [foreign words] And I asked her, "Like what is this?" And she like, [foreign words] Which is literally, holding paper.
David: Like portfolio in English or….?
Kerian: Right, exactly. So itt's just like...its weird how the whole world can become like a lesson if you have the right mentality. And I had the wrong mentality for 32 years, because I never wanted to learn French before. Now its just everything positive. It is weird.
David: Yeah, definitely making the active decision is a big step forward, right?
Keiran: Yeah. How about you, do you get opportunities, is there any area in Brisbane where you can go and meet Russian people and practice your Russian and try to spark up a conversation?
David: Uh funny you should ask. Yeah we do have a few communities here in Brisbane. A few weeks ago we had the Ukrainian festival.
Keiran: Okay, cool.
David: Uh, Ukrainians would of course speak Ukrainian but there is a fair amount of Russian speakers and out of that festival and it was a small affair. But they served Ukrainian beer and they served Ukrainian food. And they had Ukrainian pop singer who is now living in Brisbane. But I could have a few conversation in Russian which was quite pleasant and Ukrainians were really quite surprised. Pleasantly surprised to hear me mangle their language.
David: Or may be mangle Russia’s language. Maybe is that.
Keiran: But is amazing how people really appreciate when you attempt to use their language and I think...Unfortunately the only language which probably don’t do this is English because everyone...Like it's a universal language I think, but do you know what I mean by that?
David: Yeah, it is expected that if you don’t speak, someone doesn’t speak your first language or he must know a little bit of English.
Keiran: Right. Well I mean like when I was in Korea for example, this never really happened to me but I always remember other English teachers complaining about it. But when you are out in the city people would come up to you and try to talk to you because they want to practice their English.
David: Oh yes, that happens a few times as well.
Keiran: The English teachers will after while would get fed up about this. But if I go up to a person in Quebec and attempt to speak French with them. Like generally they are super happy about it. They're saying, "Oh! this person is making an effort to learn the language."
David: Um-hmm definitely, that is so important.
Keiran: Right but in English, people are just like, "No, no, I am not your teacher. Like you go watch TV or you get a book."
David: Yeah, go to YouTube or something. That's a bit unfortunate, isn’t it?
Keiran: Yeah, I think it is, but I mean I still recommend to my students. If you are walking around and your part of town and you see a English person. I am just like you just try. Worst they can say is like, "I am not interested or leave me alone."
David: Yeah, you don’t need to have an extended conversation about Shakespeare or anything. It can just be a little bit of banter, little bit of small talk, how is the weather, how is the day going. I mean that is really what we have as native speakers. Little bit of chats, that is it.
Keiran: Yeah, a just a little small talk, right?
Keiran: David, recently it was my birthday and I'm curious, what is...
David: Happy Birthday.
Keiran: Thank you. Thank you What are the birthday traditions that you guys do in your family or in Australia the common ones?
David: Birthday traditions. This is a good question. It's not so much focused on the day... We would well in my family we would at least arrange some kind of family lunch or family dinner. And it is just a chance to catch up for everyone. Because I and my brothers, the three of us are grown up, and we've all left home. So it's always nice to catch up with parents again.
Keiran: Okay. This is like, you guys do this for every birthday or like all your brothers birthdays, your mom’s birthday, your father’s birthday, you always have a family dinner.
David: Yeah, we would arrange it and probably not even on the day. Just around the weekend or even within two weeks of it happening. We wouldn’t even really bother with presents, I think.
Keiran: Oh, that's great. I wish my family did that, I hate presents.
David: Yeah, that is an obligation, isn’t there?
Keiran: Yeah, exactly. It is like oh, last week it was my birthday and actually I have succeeded. It is taking a me several years of arguing with my family. I got no presents this, I got two presents and I am just like, "Yes, now don’t have to buy them presents." [laughing]
David: So the obligation in return, they bought you a present and you have to buy them a present in return. Yeah I see, I see.
Keiran: I mean there's that aspect of, you get a present but you have to buy presents for like 12 other birthdays during the year. Then there is other aspect of, I just don’t really need anything physical anymore you know. I have…Maybe I am not a materialistic person but I have I think, what I need and I don’t want people to be like, "Here now you have this."
David: Something extra and you think, "Well, thank you but what do I do with it?"
Keiran: Yeah, exactly right. Its kind of like a burden that you get on your birthday.
David: Have you ever re-gifted something?
Keiran: Re-gifted. Have I re-gifted someone, that's a good question.
David: Given the present to somebody else and say,"Hey, look at what I have got for you?"
Keiran: I don’t think I have re-gifted anything to be honest. Have you re-gifted anything?
David: I am just trying to think about it. Um what was it? There was something I gave as a gift recently and...tt escapes my mind but I recall it being a present from a year or two years ago I just never used it. So I think I wrapped up again and...because it was in perfect condition. Never used it. I gave it to someone else as a gift. I think it was friend and it wasn’t someone in my family.
Keiran: No, I don’t think I have re-gifted some thing. But you know what we do...This weird thing we do in my families, that we always keep the gift bags.
David: Oh yeah.
Keiran: From my Christmas and birthdays, and whatever. Then every once in a while like, a year later. It's this comical thing where you give someone a gift but it's in the same bag they used to give you the gift. Then sometimes you still have like the little name tag on it.
Keiran: Yeah it's like oops. I guess that's...It's recycling, it's good. It just looks bad if you give it to someone who is outside of your family. [laughing]
David: It is good to save the wrapping paper and the gift bags because it makes look like, you have tried to make an effort even though you have just saved paper and recycled it .
Keiran: Right. You know I just realized about birthdays is that...You said you guys have a family dinner.
Keiran: We have the family dinner too but I've hated the family dinner because in my family, the family dinner, it's like a tradition that we did it every night, growing up. Every night we have a family dinner, the whole family sits together. And then when we all moved out, it was kind of nice because you haven’t seen each other for a while, right? But now I'm living in Montreal again, they're common...The family dinner to me is not only about family, as it is about my mom getting to be with her kids and bombard with questions.
David: Oh yeah.
Keiran: And I am like ah! Even on my birthday she is like, "When are we going to have your birthday?" And I'm like, "Well it is my birthday, so I don’t really want to do that." Then my dad gets mad. He's like, "Keiran, make your mother happy." I am like,"No." [laughing] "It is my birthday. I know what this is." This is just her going to be like, "Do you like your presents, do you like your dinner?” I am just like, "Ah! No I don’t like this, leave me. Let me get out of this terrible family dinner."
David: Whose birthday say it again, yeah?
Keiran: Have you ever had like a painful family dinner? Did you ever have the ones? Like they felt forced or was it more enjoyable?
David: I am guessing probably when I was much younger and we'ed all just left home. And this is where we really wanted to have independence and we wanted to indulge in it. Yeah, I guess the family dinners back then felt to be more forced. I definitely recall we were very slack about being ready or coming to the right place at the right house, or coming to the right restaurant from time. We would typically turn up late. Which is a habit I've since stopped.
David: At the moment, time has passed and I think we are bit more comfortable and we can take these families dinners in our strides. So we are little more relaxed about them.
Keiran: That is great, it's great that your family has adapted with times, unlike my family, or at least my mom. Well David, thanks for coming on here. This is been a very a loose Podcast we did for you guys, we didn’t really chose the topic or not here.
David: No thanks.
Keiran: We just planned to have some small talk. Thanks again for helping us out with the Podcast David.
David: Okay, thanks again for having me Keiran. I am looking forward to the next time.
Keiran: All right, Great. We will catch you guys on the next Podcast of Unnnnnnncensored English.
You are so smart for reading this comment, you're such a clever cat, you can do anything you want... no really.. you could probably even butter people up.
Bugger! Clacker! Struick! Don't know what those mean? Better listen!
Keiran: Alright. Today, we have David Peachey back on the podcast. How's it going, David?
David: Hurrah! It's going pretty well over here down here. Yup.
Keiran: And what’s new with you lately?
David: A few things. In general, I’m planning a holiday that’s coming up soon. Just giving myself a break and apart from that, yeah, I’m going through the motions of the teaching and a bit of socializing, a bit of music. It’s really quite nice.
Keiran: Ah , cool. So, where’s the holiday you’re planning. Where are you going to go?
David: Okay. I’m off to Hong Kong simply out of curiosity. I’ve never been there before. I don’t consider myself a big city person, but yeah, I’ll try it out anyway to see what it looks like.
David: Scoot around.
Keiran: That’s exciting and when are you heading out there?
David: Next month, so, yeah, mid-November. So, basically, my plan is go to Hong Kong, zip across to Macau because apparently it’s close. They’ve got the Grand Prix on around mid-November, so…
David: Prices for hotels and even hostels have just sky rocketed into the hundreds literally.
Keiran: Yeah. It’s a good to juice everyone when that’s happening.
David: Yeah. So, and yeah, then I’ll catch a couple of friends down in Malaysia and then checkout Myanmar, the old Burma.
Keiran: Alright. Cool man. Well, I hope that trip goes well.
David: Yeah. Looking forward to it. Yeah.
Keiran: So, David, today on the podcast, you’re going to be teaching us about some local slang. I’m only familiar with one of the words that you…
Keiran: Propose to talk to about today. So, let’s just get started. What…
David: Yup. Let’s get into these words.
Keiran: What do you have ready for us today?
David: Okay. The first word would be the one you’re most familiar with which is…
David: Yeah. Bugga and we drop the R at the end like good Australians.
Keiran: Yeah. The lazy pronunciation. Bugga.
David: Yeah. And it’s a lovely exclamation and we use it all the time to surprise, frustration. You can say, “Bugga me” if you’re very surprised.
Keiran: Sorry. Can you explain it a little more, like let’s say I say I bought – like I say, “David, come outside. I have something for you and then you go outside and there’s a brand new car.” Are you going to say, “Oh, bugga me! A new car!”
David: I would. Yeah. “Bugger me! A new car!”
Keiran: It’s funny.
David: Yeah. I think bugger by itself, it’s maybe a bit more like frustration or annoyance or I didn’t expect this to happen, “Oh! Bugger!”
Keiran: Right. You what I think we’ve occasionally heard this – I’ve occasionally heard this word and it was always from an older person in Canada It’s like maybe like my grandma and she would always say, “Oh, you little bugger! Get out of the cookies. Those are for after dinner.”
David: That’s the interesting thing because it’s quite a strong word in the UK, so you wouldn’t readily use it or use it as freely as we would.
Keiran: Maybe my grandma has a foul mouth.
Keiran: I don’t know.
David: Possibly or maybe the meaning’s changed that’s why I find this word interesting. So, little bit of history is that bugger means sodomy. Bugger means anal sex.
David: That’s the – that’s why it’s such a strong word in British English.
David: History of that, it comes from and this is going to sound a bit racist, it comes from Bulgarian.
David: And apparently, there was some war or bad blood, so…
Keiran: And then they’ve…
David: Bulgarian, bulgar, became bugger.
Keiran: Oh! That’s interesting.
David: Yeah. So, that’s the interesting thing.
Keiran: I thought you’re going to say that they buggered them after they won the war, like…
Keiran: I forget we’re…
David: I had to [inaudible] that much.
Keiran: No, but I remember, I remember maybe I’m completely wrong on this, but it was kind of like a form of humiliating the opponents after you win a war, you – anyways, this is getting very graphic.
David: Yeah. I do. I’m not very good at modern history, so I don’t know.
David: I pondered on why it’s much softer outside of the UK and maybe it’s not because we’re desensitized to it or we’re in denial of its history, but there’s an extra theory that’s says bugger comes from a corruption of Irish Gaelic speaking saying, by-god, which would be “begorr” …
David: Which is where we get our stereotypical begorrah from, which no Irish person ever says.
David: So, it could be a version of “by-gorr” or a combination of the two. So, that’s just a little theory. Maybe that’s why it’s just a casual word here. It’s actually not vulgar at all to us.
Keiran: Right. And I don’t remember it being vulgar when I was in Australia when I heard it. I was – it just seemed to be dropped around quite carefree with a…
Keiran: You wouldn’t think about it much.
David: Yeah. I do wonder if that’s, yeah, a combination of two different histories taken to the Australian bugger.
David: Just my history [phonetic].
Keiran: Alright. Let’s go onto the next one. What’s the next word you have for us?
David: Okay. Going on from bugger, we have the word “clacker” and this is one of my favorite Australian slang words, and it’s connected to bugger because clacker is the anatomical anus.
Keiran: The anatomical anus.
David: Anus. Yeah. So, it can’t really correlate with asshole because you can’t use clacker to describe a person.
Keiran: So, you’re saying you’re not someone’s an asshole, you’re saying – you’re just talking about the anatomical part of the body?
David: Yes. So, “A pain in the clacker.” Yeah. “What’s up with your clacker?”
Keiran: This is funny. It is a funny – it’s a funny way to say.
David: It’s beautiful word.
David: Yeah, “You’re clacker!” “Kick up the clacker!”
Keiran: Now, is it…
David: “You need to kick up the clacker!”
Keiran: Is this is a regional, like, is this is a regional slang in Australia? Is it for like people around Brisbane because I don’t recall hearing this one when I was Wagga. Maybe Wagga wasn’t clacker region.
David: It is definitely east coast.
David: It’s in a couple of Australian comedies, but yeah, if you – the main point is it is in the anatomical sense of the…
David: So, it doesn’t really in a figurative sense. Now, my little online research tells me it comes from that which clacks. This makes no sense. We don’t say clack. We mean fart.
Keiran: Well, I mean, I guess maybe it could…
Keiran: I guess it depends how you hear it. Like my wife always gets angry when in Canada, we say dogs bark, and she says, “No, they don’t. They go, haw, haw, haw, haw, haw!” And I’m just like, “Okay. Well, maybe that’s Mongolia dogs.”
Keiran: Like I don’t here dogs go haw, haw, haw, haw, haw!
David: Oh! Haw! Haw! Yeah, that’s sounds pretty common about, yeah, also in Turkish they say haw. Yup. Yeah. So, clacker is – my theory is it actually comes from the Latin word “cloaca” which – you use cloaca to describe – if you’re talking about birds and fish because they don’t have like anything remotely like human genitalia. They just have one hole.
Keiran: Right. Yeah.
David: Which is the kind of excretion/reproduction…
David: Do everything and that’s called the cloaca, so I wonder if that’s been corrupted into the Australian clacker.
Keiran: Maybe. That would make sense.
Keiran: One of my other podcasts, so he’s a bird fanatic and he likes to talk about birds do everything through that one hole, so.
Keiran: The words are similar. That could be an easy jump, right?
David: Yeah. I think that’s a much easy jump that trying to describe farting as clacking. We just don’t that.
Keiran: Okay. Alright. So, clacker means the anatomical anus.
Keiran: It’s interesting. Okay. “So, I got a pain in the clacker.”
David: Yup. Or someone needs a “kick up the clacker” or…
Keiran: Okay. That’s a god one. Alright. What’s the next one you have for us, David?
David: Okay. Word number three. This is a pretty outdated word. If you use this in Australia, people will think you stepped out of 1940 or 1950. It is “struth.”
David: Which is an expression of surprise. Now, it’s other than S-T-R-U-T-H or S-T-R-E-W-T-H and it comes from 18th century English which is like a contraction of God’s truth.
Keiran: What do you mean God’s truth?
David: God’s truth. So, it’s like a religious oath. It’s a swearing by God’s truth.
David: So, you say, “Oh! Struth!” Of course that meaning, that connection is lost in time. Yeah, I found it quite interesting because this goes all the way back to Shakespeare. He had, not sure if he spones, which was God’s bones in Hamlet. Hamlet definitely says splood, God’s blood.
Keiran: So, it’s like an abbreviation for God and another word, struth, God’s truth.
Keiran: It’s interesting.
David: God’s truth, yeah, corrupt or contract into struth.
Keiran: So, I guess if you’re in Australia in the near future and you’re going to the retirement home and you find some really old people, you could maybe throw this word around to get in.
Keiran: To get in with the gang of old people. Struth.
David: Yeah. It’s very – yeah, everyone knows it but it’s a very outdated word.
Keiran: Okay. Cool. Alright. And you have I think one more for us, right?
David: Yes. This is a really interesting one for a long time. I didn’t realize this was a purely Australian word and it’s – I don’t even count it as slang because it’s just a standard word to us, and the word is “spruik” which is spelled S-P-R-U-I-K.
Keiran: So, how did you discover this was an Australian word or an Australian slang. I mean how did you discover it is an Australian word.
David: A bit of online research and because I think it’s an unusual word and…
David: Just by the spelling, the U-I-K spelling it’s really considered strange for an English word accounting of many English words that have a U-I-K spelling, spruik.
Keiran: Yeah. It’s not a U-I-K. Yeah, even – the only – I can’t, spruik. The only thing I – the only word I can think of that same word is Buick but that’s not even a – that’s a brand of car.
David: Me too.
Keiran: So, it’s not the same. Right. That’s interesting.
David: Yeah. So, but this was a standard word. Basically, to spruik is to promote something. So, you would be spruiking a product, spruiking an event. Sometimes outside the front of a shop, there might be like an actor looking for work and they’d have like a microphone and amplifier and they’d be giving a promotional spiel and that is spruiking.
Keiran: Spruiking. Yeah.
David: A person’s called a spruiker.
Keiran: So, again, I spruik my show at the end of this podcast.
David: Exactly. Exactly. And that sounds completely natural. So, I don’t even count it as a kind of slang but origin. No idea.
Keiran: Yeah. That’s why it’s going be, I mean, that’s really interesting. It has to be somewhere from Australia obviously because we, like this is – I’ve never heard this word. I’ve never – and you’re right, if I saw this word, I would be like that’s not a word. This is misspelled. No, I’ve never seen a world spelled like that, right?
David: Yeah. The closest – just like guess I could make just looking at it now, it might, I mean, this is purely my idea, so there’s no research behind this. Maybe it’s from the Dutch “spreek” which would be to speak. That would be S-P-R-E-E-K, spreek.
Keiran: Okay. Spruik.
David: Yeah. Now, we have spruik. So, yeah, it’s a mysterious word which is quite a normal word to us.
Keiran: Yeah. That’s interesting. You could use that to screw some foreign English people from other countries.
David: Oh, yeah.
Keiran: “Hey, let’s going spruiking later today.” Like, “What?” “Yeah. Come one. We’ll tell you about it later.”
David: It’ll be fun.
David: Grab this microphone.
Keiran: Alright. Well, David, thank you for sharing those interesting slangs, Australian slangs with us. Let’s review them really quickly before we end the podcast.
David: Yeah. Sure.
Keiran: So, the first one we had was “bugger.”
Keiran: Sorry, I got it…
David: Bugga. Yeah. So, remember to drop that R. You end that final R if you’re using the Australian English.
David: Bugger maybe a combination of English bugger meaning sodomy or the Gaelic by-god, but who knows. Mystery.
Keiran: Right. And then we have the next one also with an E-R, which is clacker, or in Australia it would be clacker.
David: Clacker. You said it very well. Maybe from the Latin “cloaca”, but yeah, that’s probably, that’s the most logical connection I could imagine, but clacker, the anatomical anus.
Keiran: Yeah. Anatomical anus. Beautiful.
Keiran: And then, the next one we have is “struth” meaning God’s truth, right?
Keiran: It’s an old-fashioned word.
David: Yeah. Just to show you’re surprised. “Oh! Struth!” “Struth, mate!”
Keiran: Struth. And the last one…
David: “Struth! Bugger me!”
Keiran: was the Australian, what’s word I’m looking for, oh, crap! It’s the word that only exists inside of Australia, the English word…
Keiran: Yeah. There you go. Endemic. It’s endemic to Australia. Right. Spruik.
David: Spruik. Yeah. Spruiking and spruiker if you want to promote something.
Keiran: Great. So, guys, we’re going to end this podcast by spruiking myself. If you’ve liked this podcast, if David and I have well, maybe David, today has helped you learned some interesting English, then subscribe to us on iTunes. Rate it. Review it. And we’ll catch you very soon on the next podcast of Uncensored English. That’s my spruiking.
Ah yes, those sweet sweet dangerous topics. Today Edward and I stage a debate about the Taiji Dolphin Hunt. Come listen!
Keiran: What's up Edward? Good to have you back on the podcast. How is it going?
Edward: Things are going well. How are you doing Keiran?
Keiran: I'm pretty good you know teaching, podcasting, having a crappy birthday parties.
Edward: Okay, well, two out of three ain't bad.
Keiran: Yeah. So I hadn't spoken to you in a while. What's new with you?
Edward: I've been pretty busy teaching, editing, doing some different stuff back in Toronto now and was in Montreal for thanksgiving.
Keiran: Did you have any crappy birthday parties?
Edward: Not yet but maybe in another eight to ten months.
Keiran: Okay. Oh, he's hoping.
Keiran: Okay. So, today on the podcast we're going to do something a little bit fun here that we have never tried before. We're going to have a... a fake debate and... By fake debate, Edward and I are going to present a debate topic and we're going to take stances which may or may not be the way we really feel on the topic. And then, we're going to just have a little bit of a debate between ourselves. But before we start the debate, I'm going to just fill you in a bit about this topic. It is quite controversial so, I hope you don't find it upsetting but this is Uncensored English podcast and these are the kind of things that we can do.
Edward: We are here to upset you.
Keiran: Yes, we're here to upset you and help you learn. Okay, so we're going to be debating The Taiji Dolphin Hunt which happens in a fishing village in Japan. And I'm going to read a little bit of an article it's form Wikipedia, and might not be completely accurate but just to fill you in, okay?
So, The Taiji Dolphin Hunt is a dolphin drive hunt that that takes place in Taiji, Wakayama in Japan every year from September to March. According to the Japanese Fishery Research Agency, a thousand six hundred and twenty three dolphins were caught in Wakayama prefecture in 2007 for human consumption or resell to the dolphinariums and most of these were caught at Taiji. The annual dolphin hunt provides income for local residents and has received international criticism for both the cruelty of the dolphin killing and the high mercury level of the dolphin meat.
Okay, so that's as much as we're going to give the listeners. Now, we're just going to have a debate. So, Edward what's your feeling' on this topic? Are you for this historical... its kind a… of a cultural activity in Japan or are you against it?
Edward: In this case, I am going to say that I'm against it. And you know as far as traditional killing goes, I guess I'm traditionally opposed to a traditional killing but especially recently, I've been reading about dolphins just unrelated to this fake debate but I've been reading about dolphins and just about how intelligent they are and really how amazing they are and it does seem pretty horrible to think about killing them in any fashion. So, that's kind of what is influencing' my feelings on that matter.
Edward: And especially they want to think about... what I've been reading about it's in terms like dolphins language abilities and you know like millions of years ago, actually dolphins were smarter than our ancestors. So, just form... I don't know ow many million years ago. Let's say 10 million years ago, dolphins actually had the potential to be smarter than we are today. Just things kind of took different directions and our ancestors ended up becoming humans and dolphins ended up being dolphins.
Edward: To me...
Keiran: I guess they should have got smarter faster because now there are food.
Edward: Yeah, but I mean... but do we really need to eat dolphins? It's like the… you know what I normally hear about the cases of humans eating dolphins, it’s by mistake. It's when they're tuna fishing and dolphins are always around tuna, so they end up getting kind of caught in the nets and then they're ground down into whatever becomes canned tuna.
Edward: You know. So, it's like if 99% of the time, we are purposely avoiding dolphins in our consumption then why can't we just make it 100% at the time?
Keiran: Well, I mean, basically the argument is dolphins are highly intelligent animals therefore, we should not eat them. I mean, my argument is going to be that, an animal is an animal is an animal. If you're eating animals then who are you to tell other people which animals they can eat? And there are other animals that are consumed on a regular basis which are also highly intelligent animals such as pigs. So, if we're going to go around eating pigs, then why do we get to tell other people not to practice their cultural tradition which provides food for a lot of people you know, I mean that's everything about being dolphins. It's a big animal, right? And...
Keiran: And that's going to provide food for lots of people. I don't...
Edward: Can I...
Keiran: I don't know if an eating the dolphin is worse than eating a pig or if it's worse than eating a cow, to me. I don't know. Yeah, your purpose is to eat the animal and to keep living, not to be aware like I don't... what does intelligence have to do with anything? It's just survival.
Edward: I'll tell you what it has to do with it. And I'm going to go to an example that I don't even really like but Keiran, I know you have a dog. And how do you feel about people eating dogs?
Keiran: Well, mine, I don't actually like that dog very much to be honest.
Edward: Okay, well then I'm going to pull on your heart strings and I'm going to say that you had a dog before this dog.
Edward: And how would you feel about people eating that dog?
Keiran: Yeah, I mean you can grow emotionally attached to anything but if came to the worst case scenario and I was starving and all I have with my old dog then I guess I would have to eat it.
Edward: Okay, so are we saying that this traditional hunt is because these people are starving?
Keiran: No, I mean it's not... that's a good question. I don't think I [inaudible] it enough about that city and maybe the wealth of that city and whether this is just the best way for them to eat. But It's... but then if that's why we're not going to let them hunt those animals, than I guess we got to stop eating pigs or cows because cows are very soft, gentle, sensitive animals, right?
Edward: Yeah, you know what...
Keiran: Your argument is that dolphins are intelligent but cows are not creating problems out there.
Edward: Honestly, I don't really argue too much against that point because I think probably in another hundred years, we will be eating fewer and fewer animals. Just in terms of like you know we always talked about the water and the energy that goes into getting one cow.
Edward: For our consumption right? So, probably you are right that if we don't eat dolphins, we should not also eat cows or pigs.
Edward: But for the time being, people didn’t feel the same way about cows and pigs as they do about dogs and dolphins. So, I am going to argue that dolphins are actually smarter than dogs and those humans can have a better relationship with the dolphin than a dog if they had you know the opportunity to do it like we do with domesticated animals like cats and dogs. So, if people are so outraged with the idea of eating dogs, which some country still do, and I will say right now that I have eaten dog. But I can also say that... no because I 'm also going to say that I won't do it again and that I'll never eat a dolphin. And this is a fake debate.
Keiran: Well, it is a fake debate but I don't like the arguments so...
Edward: I'm trying to come at it from as many different angles as possible. This is why probably people prepare for debates.
Keiran: Well, I mean it's... to me I think the main reason people are against eating dolphins is just because of their intelligence and I think that's the argument that you decide to take and it's a strange thing because when you're eating something, you've already decided to not respect it and I just... I see a problem put in one animal in front of another animal like what... who's to decide that intelligence is a factor that forces us to respect an animal? Why it has a high IQ makes something more, more valuable to... not humanity but to the universe? You know like human being s are supposed to be the most intelligent animals on the planet but we're probably the most destructive. So, maybe we should just start eating each other and leave the dolphins alone.
Edward: Okay, see that's a very interesting point to take. I don't know how many people will agree with that but I will disagree with the idea that people don't respect animals if they eat them because if you think about someone who puts all of their energy and all of their time into raising an animal, but that a animal is going to be eaten to provide food for their family, I think they show nothing but respect for that animal like they are devoting their lives to that animal's well- being and they care for that animal up until to the point where they decide kill it, to eat it.
Keiran: To kill when I need it. Yeah.
Edward: But I think, I mean that's a crazy idea but I don't think that, that takes away any respect that they have for those animals.
Keiran: Well, I mean it's... that depends I mean who... if you know the person is raising the animal, fine like so my wife's family they have a farm in Mongolia and they have about 700 sheep and...
Keiran: I would say or honestly, that's probably the only meat I'm comfortable eating now after doing research on factory farms like the way pigs are brought up in the U.S. is deplorable. So, these are not animals that are the most of the meat are [inaudible (11:34) ] North America's not coming from animals that are being treated with respect. So...
Edward: Oh, I agree. I agree, yeah.
Keiran: And by the way, those dolphins are living in the wild. Those dolphins are probably healthier meat to eat than the pigs and the cows that we raise in North America.
Edward: I don't disagree with that either there. And...
Keiran: So, basically you're saying you would like to have some dolphin for supper tomorrow?
Edward: I'm saying I'm going to go hunting for a wild dog in the near future.
Keiran: Okay, I hope dog... well, dog is a real bony and you going to have to kill a few than to get anything.
Keiran: Alright, great. That was fun. That was a good fake debate.
Edward: Yeah, I know. I enjoy flip flopping from side to side.
Keiran: I mean, I...
Edward: Going back and forth.
Keiran: I think my senses is actually real though like I don't I mean, I'm for the most part of it I am against the killing of animals for eating but I see the point of this city doing it because it's just a convenient way to go hunt and then get a lot of food, you know.
Edward: Right. All for...
Keiran: And don't think the way they do it is good but they need to eat and it's something their culture has been doing for a while.
Edward: Yeah. Well, for this fake debate, I was on the side of the dolphins. I think primarily because of the kind of research that I've been doing recently about just how intelligent they are, right? And we actually have in Canada a very similar issue with a traditional hunt that is very controversial and that's the seal hunt.
Edward: And do you know... yeah, I don't know how I feel about the seal hunt because again it's like it's a tradition that's been going on for let's say thousands of years.
Edward: And it's just when people start to... attention to what is actually happening then they decided those people can't do it anymore even they'll has nothing to do with them.
Keiran: Yeah, it's weird.
Edward: It's just... It's tough to tell a group of people all that their traditions are wrong.
Keiran: Right, right and that's...
Edward: Because they're not our traditions.
Keiran: That's the big issue but I'm in seals I think our ways worse than dolphins like.
Edward: Way worse in terms of?
Keiran: Seals... seals I know that seals like the father seal will like drown the baby seal and force the mother seal to give it food or something and seals rape each other and I mean, I never read the whole article about seals and the terrible things that they do but so I would have to say more up for killing seals than for killing dolphins but...
Edward: Okay. Well, alright.
Today we reveal the story telling challenge winners, I shared some adventures in improving my French fluency, talk about my crazy goals for South Korea, and lastly share with you why I think all recreational drugs should be completely legal.
Well some stuff happened this weekend, and now we're going to talk about it.... also we're going to talk about getting into a pickle!
Canadian English, American English, Sometimes they're different, sometimes they're pretty similar. Today I show you how to sound like a Canadian.
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Keiran: What's going on? Today is October the 9th. It's Sunday and how are you doing? I hope you're doing well. I know I am. I'm feeling rested, I'm feeling relaxed since the weekend and I'm actually in the car again recording this podcast because well, it's pretty hard to get some quiet space in the house on a Sunday afternoon. I'm a little bit disappointed for you to be-- I didn't plan on recording this podcast today. I had a great podcast I had done with a former student of mine named Rubin and I was going to publish that tomorrow afternoon but I was listening to the audio and I know he serves a huge echo in it. So, I'm going to ask him if we can redo it because it's really interesting. We talked about he took a trip to Whales and just went out to bars and went out to social events to try to practice English instead of taking an English language school.
But anyways, today on the podcast, we're going to talked about the one of the number one ways you can sound like a Canadian English speaker. We're going to talk about that famous two letter word the Canadians are known for saying and of course that word is "eh", E-H, “eh" and it's really simple to use and there's only two ways that is really used. So let's get this podcast starting. Let's start talking about it, okay? Actually the podcast is already been started for about almost two minutes now.
Okay, so "eh". The first way we use “eh" is after a question. We just use it to emphasize a sentence and you stick it on after you've asked the question. For example you could say "Is it cold outside today, eh?" or "What are we going to have for dinner tonight, eh?” “Where are you going later on this week, eh?" "Are you going to watch the game tonight, eh?” That's all it is. You just stick it on the end of a question. It's very simple. "Are you going to go over the Vancouver later this year, eh?” And that's a simple way you can sound like a Canadian English speaker.
Okay, now the second way we use "eh" has a little bit more meaning to it. We, to act it on again at the end of a sentence but this time, it's at the end of a statement and it's a kind of like you're confirming this fact with the person you’re talking to. For example, "Oh, is this some great beer, eh?” So, what I said, “This is some great beer, eh?" I'm confirming with that person that the beer is great or "Wow, what a great hockey game last night, eh?” See again I'm confirming the fact that I said with the other person by saying “eh" at the end. It's kind of like a question and your kind of like confirming it. What else can I give you for another example, "Oh, wow we finally get rid of that terrible Prime Mnister, eh?” We got rid of the terrible Prime Minister, that's the fact, that's a statement, “eh" now I'm confirming it with the person I talked to. And that's all you got to do to sound like a native English Canadians speaker. You just tuck on "eh" at the end of those sentences.
So, I hope you guys have found this useful and it's really easy to practice this, you can just next time you speak English with someone, just tuck on "eh" at the end of a question or at the end of a statement so, you kind of confirming that statement with the person who you're talking to.
Alright guys, I guess this podcast is going to be a short one, just too quick little announcements. We're announcing the winners for the story telling challenge on Wednesday. I am closing down the Facebook group on Wednesday and on Wednesday I'm opening up the private Facebook group. We're going to be interacting in that one a lot more but you're going to have to join the newsletter to get into it. So, just go to uncensoredenglish.ca, sign up for the newsletter and I'm going to add you to that group on Wednesday.
Alright guys, enjoy the rest of your day and I'll catch you next time on the next podcast of Uncensored English.
Oh the story telling challenge! What actually happened to those bikes? We also speak about moving towards fluency, and a streak of bad luck.
By request of a student I made the podcast to give you listeners out there multiple ways to say the word "going" Also we discuss a sad movie and why its ok to break rules sometimes.
Keiran: How is it going everybody? Today, is Wednesday, October the fifth. Which means I am not teaching, but I am working doing a podcast. I'm doing my second to the last comedy show tonight and I'm helping my wife with this English assignment she has. She has to compare the play of this Rex which I talked about in Saturday's podcast on the first. And this, oh my god this emotionally wrenching film I just watched that's called "Philomena", which I have to admit I cried my eyes out like a baby during the film. That was a very sad film. I wish I'd never had watched it. But it's probably, it's probably a pretty good film. I think if you guys watch it you'll probably like it, it's tough to watch though. It's about a girl, a young woman who got pregnant and she was a nun in a convent which means she was a Catholic and she lived with a whole bunch of other women in the convent. They can't have sex, so she broke her vows, she got pregnant and then the sisters of the convent made her give away the baby when she was very young and at fifty she decide, it's not her fifty, it's like seven years and then she decides to go and try to find her son. And then in the end she ends up finding that he had died and blah blah blah, and oh my god it's sad I cried. [Chuckles] I haven't cried for a while but I cried during that movie, so. You better not be laughing at me. You cry too! I know you do stop lying. Stop saying you don't. Everybody cries. Even men, men cry. So, yes and today I wanted to talk about something, I was teaching a class on Tuesday and one of my students, she said, you know, I know I've improved in my English but I'm still not where I want to be yet and I feel like I'm always using the same words. And I've heard this a lot from many different students and it's a funny thing because I don't think an English person will ever worry about this and I don't think you in your native language will ever worry about the words you're using, yet people seem concerned that they sound overly simple. So today I'm going to give you guys a few different ways you can say that you're going somewhere, very simple ways to say this in a different way. But I mean this, this conversation I had with this student and with many other students made me realize, what are you learning the language for? You know. Is it because you want to communicate a message and connect with another person? Or is it because you want to seem intelligent? So I don't know if saying something in many different ways is actually helpful. I mean, I know you want to understand the language but maybe that's something to contemplate for everyone out there who's listening to this podcast. Why am I learning to speak this language? Right?
Okay. So sometimes in English, sometimes in English. Sometimes we're talking and we say, we are going somewhere. I'm going to go to the store and get some food. Later on I'm going to go to a party or maybe you're saying, Hey! Where did John go? He went to the the party to go get hammered. To go get drunk. To go have some fun. But you're tired of saying it in the same way all the time. So here are two different words you can use to say the same thing but in a different way. So instead of saying, "I'm going to the store", you can say, "I'm heading to the store", just like your head. Think of it as if all your decisions are made in your brain. So your brain is leading the way. "I'm heading to the store to get some booze." "I'm heading to the store to buy some ingredients before it closes, so I can cook you dinner". So if you ever want to say you're going somewhere but you're tired of saying you're going somewhere, you can now say, "I'm heading to the party at eight o'clock later tonight". Where did John go? "Oh, John is heading off to the football game. It's the last game of the season. He's heading to the football game." Okay. So that's the first word you can use instead of the verb go or going or went. He headed to the party, you can also say in the past. The second one we can use is, "off to". Where are you going? "Well, I'm off to the store." "I'm off to the store to get some ingredients." Where are you going next year? "Next year I'm off to South Korea. I'm going to go live there and I'm going to learn the language, so I can perform comedy in Korean. I'm going to be off to Korea in a few years." "I'm off to." Actually I just thought of something funny that happened this weekend that kind of a pissed me off a little. I realized as time goes by, one of the things that really pisses me off, one of my pet peeves, is people mindlessly following rules. You know, we have rules to create a society so that everything kind of works and we all can get through our days. That's why we have rules like stop sign and traffic rules and speeding limits, so everyone can kind of lives seamlessly together but sometimes the rules don't really make sense. You know. So I was at my sister's wedding on Saturday and after the wedding we were all getting into the cars. We were going to go to a restaurant for the dinner and then the party afterwards. And I go get in my car. And we were in this small parking lot and there was only one way to get in the parking lot. It was a one way road which came off of the main road, which will lead right to the parking lot. But before it entered the parking lot, the road split in two. So you could go around the left to the parking lot or you could enter the parking lot. And of course this is a one way road so you can only go towards the parking lot or around the parking lot. And we were all in our car and everyone else was in their car and then the limo that the bridal party was in was parked in front of the building and they were blocking the exit to the parking lot. So there's this big line of cars accumulating behind the limo and I didn't really want to wait. So what I started to do is I started to drive out the exit of the parking lot, which of course you're not supposed to do. It's a one way road, but you can see all the way down to the end of the road and there's no cars coming down that one way road. And so I drove out the exit and then I drove right to where it fork and I turned right in the fork of the road and then I went by the limo and I got out of the parking lot. But while I was going towards that parking lot exit. I mean entrance. Well, I'm not supposed to be going out there, my aunt was waiting in line with all the other cars and she saw me and she started waving and she'll be like, "No no no no no no! You're heading in the wrong way. You're heading in the wrong way Carrie. Don't go there." And I was just, "Oh God, and as I, everyone in the car was getting very upset because they all knew that that was a one way road. But then on the other hand it doesn't really matter that that is a one way road because there were no cars in clear sight coming down that road. So it was really pointless to acknowledge that as a one way road. Wow! I wonder if that was clear. I think it was pretty clear. You know. If you've listened to this podcast and it wasn't clear to me, let me know. I mean, clear to you, let me know. But let's summarize this real quickly. So today we talked about two different ways you can say you're going somewhere, instead of saying you're going somewhere. So we can say we are heading to the pool, instead of saying you're going to the pool or if someone says, Hey! Where is Jen going? You could say, "She's off to the pool." Alright guys. That's the end of this podcast. I hope you enjoyed it and found it useful. Rate it, review it, and we'll catch you next time on the next podcast... Uncensored English.
Sometimes you don't appreciate things until they're gone, today on the podcast David Peachy and I reminisce about things we miss.
Keiran: All right. So I'm glad to have David back on the podcast with us today. How's it going David?
David: Hi, good, Keiran and I'm glad to be back here as well.
Keiran: Right, right. You know David I was just thinking the other day. I was - I'm researching into either going - I'm going to move to Korea, move back to Korea again in the year.
Keiran: Or possibly back to Russia.
Keiran: And I started to remember when I was living in Korea the first time there were so many things, small things that I missed.
Keiran: That I couldn't get while I was over there.
David: Okay, so things that you could easily get in Canada but were almost nonexistent in Korean or very difficult?
Keiran: Right, exactly. Did you ever have that experience living abroad where all of a sudden, like you just realize these small things that you had once in your life time, you never appreciate and now you've found it really hard to get by without them?
David: Yes, it's usually when I'm not prepared. As an Australian I always take Vegemite with me when I travel because I know no other country will eat it so... [laugh]
Keiran: Yes. [laugh]
David: I keep my own stock.
Keiran: By the way can you explain to us what Vegemite is? Because I remember the first time I heard about it, I had never heard of it before.
David: Okay. It's a paste. It's dark, very dark brown, almost black. You spread it on your toast or you spread it on bread to make a simple sandwich. The big mistake people make with it is that they think it is sweet and they think you can put a lot of it on the bread. No, this is as salty as hell. But some reason we love it. It's a yeast based extract. And I think Australians love it because it's what we're fed as children with it, Vegemite sandwiches and we grow up having Vegemite on toast, but we know to spread it very, very, very thinly just to get that salty taste on top of the butter.
Keiran: Right, right. Okay.
David: You can't slather on of course.
Keiran: So aside from Vegemite, what did you find hard to get by without when you were living abroad?
David: One thing I really remember when I was living in Slovakia right on the Slovak Czech border, I was looking for peanut butter. And I realized after hours and hours of searching in many supermarkets that I couldn't find peanut butter anywhere and I had to ask my friends in both countries, in Slovakia and the Czech Republic. I had said like,"Guys, where do you keep your peanut butter? What's happened? It doesn't exist?]
Keiran: Yeah, yeah. [laugh] It's just kind of something you take for granted that peanut butter is everywhere when it's not, right?
David: Exactly. And it turned out it's a seasonal thing.
David: Yes. So, it will turn up for - every few months it will turn up in the supermarkets and then it sells out, disappear, supermarkets have nothing for a few more months so it comes in waves. That was an interesting experience just to realize that, yes, peanut butter was not available.
Keiran: Yes, I guess you became aware of your fondness of peanut butter during that time.
David: Exactly, so what's something that you missed when you when you were in Korea?
Keiran: Well this is funny. This is not actually something I really missed but I think people around me missed, this sounds strange but I actually have no - my nose doesn't really work. I don't have a sense of smell.
Keiran: And I remember when I, you know, when you start to become, I guess when you go through puberty and you start to - your body starts to change, kids, at least in North America and I think most other parts of the world start to wear deodorant because they start getting quite stinky, right?
David: Yes or smelly.
Keiran: [laugh] Right but the weird thing is in South Korea you can't - they don't use deodorant.
Keiran: They don't have it in major department stores. I think, I'm not sure why but they just, they don't sweat in the same way that we do, something about their pores or something.
Keiran: So, yes, I know. You seem confused like your face looks confused as I'm telling you this.
Keiran: So I went over there and I was there for a few months and then my deodorant stick ran out. And then I went to the store to go buy more but they don't have any because they don't use it.
David: Would they use something talcum powder or would they just wash very, very well? Like, I-
Keiran: They just don't smell. They don't smell strongly as, I guess.
David: [laugh] As we do.
Keiran: Other people around the world.
David: As we sweaty people do. Yes.
Keiran: Yes, exactly. And so I had to travel to the - to Itaewon which is the-
David: Itaewon, yes, I know Itaewon, yes.
Keiran: It's like the little hub of all the people from around the world who come to live in Korea. What's it called? I'm missing the word. It's like the expat hub.
David: Expats, yes.
Keiran: It's like the expat hub and that's the only place in Korea that I could buy deodorant. And it was at a very high price too. [laugh] Because they're the only place that had it, you know. So I'd have to pay more than I was used to paying for it.
David: Wow. Okay.
Keiran: Thought it's weird. But if you look up they have all these videos on YouTube like, what's it like dating like a Japanese woman or what's it like dating an Australian women or how to date Canadian women if you're Korean? And then if you ever get to the Korean and like foreigner videos they always say a lot of Korean men or women complain that their partners they smell a lot because they're just not used to the strong body odor that we have, I guess.
David: Yeah, I wonder[?], I mean it could be genetics or like do you think maybe it's a diet thing?
Keiran: No, I think it's a genetic thing. I'm pretty sure it's a genetic thing.
David: Okay, I've never clicked on that because I had swung through Korean a couple of times and spent a couple of weeks on my way through but I still had my deodorant stick at the end of my journey. So, yes, that never became a necessity. I was, yes, quite surprised about that.
Keiran: Yes. So again I didn't really miss it because I can't smell but I think people around me missed that I didn't have it. [laugh]
David: They noticed. Wow. So is there anything that you, well now you're back home, is there anything that you miss from Korea?
Keiran: Oh, yes, for sure. I just miss the food. Korean food is just so great.
David: Is this the street food or just the restaurant food or both?
Keiran: It's everything and it's not even the food it's also the service. Like when you go into a restaurant in Korea, you're served immediately and you pick what you want and they bring it to your table and most Korean restaurants, it's cooked right in front of you.
David: Oh yes, yes, yes. Yes, we still keep that tradition in some of the new Korean restaurants here in Australia.
Keiran: Right, right. And that's great. And it's, it feels just better than when you go to, like another restaurant in North America and you got to sit there and then you get your menu and then they say "Do you want a drink?" and then they come back five minutes later and take your order and then you wait for thirty minutes and there it's just, it's immediate and you get served and your eating, right?
David: Cooking in front of you.
Keiran: What about you? Is there anything you miss now that you're back at home from the foreign country you lived in?
David: Yes, there was something and this is again in Slovakia, probably because I spent most time there. I liked how Slovaks treated lunch time as a serious matter. Like you - it was almost unthinkable to work through your lunch hour. If you would actually stop, you would leave the office or leave the business. If it's a small business you would actually close the business for an hour and you'd go to the local restaurant that have a daily menu special, which was incredibly cheap. You would literally pay about three or four euros and that would get you a starter soup, a main meal which is usually something with a lot of dumplings or sauce and probably even a drink on top of that for about three or four euros. And, yes, it was just such a lovely break in the middle of the day. It made you feel like, yes, this is - it's not all about work.
Keiran: Yes and that's how it should be. You shouldn't be encouraged to shovel your food down your throat as quick as you can.
Keiran: Before you get back to another four hours of work.
David: Yes, I think-
Keiran: Like it's...
David: Yes, I had a discussion with one of my students there about take-away coffee and, I mean it exists in Slovakia but it's not really the thing you do because again, if you have to take away your coffee or you have to work while drinking your coffee there's something wrong. Why do you have to work so hard?
David: Don't you have the time to actually sit down and enjoy a coffee?
Keiran: Right, exactly.
David: So, yes, this take-away coffee hasn't really take an off in Slovakia.
Keiran: No, that's good. [laugh]
David: Yes, it probably is . Yes.
Keiran: All right guys, we're going to wrap this up. So thank you David for coming on here and discussing with me about things that you missed while you were both living abroad and at home.
David: It's a pleasure being here?.
Keiran: Yes and why don't you guys join us in the Facebook group under this podcast that we're going to post. Just post a few things that you miss while you've been traveling abroad. Tell me and David what you missed when you were traveling or what you missed now that you're back at home.
David: Yes, we'd love to hear them.
Keiran: Right. All right guys. And that's it. So we'll catch you on the next podcast of Uncensored English.
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